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Teófilo de Jesús's avatar

Very good essay. The Pope is the Pope no matter how infuriating I may find him at times.

One teeny tiny observation: ““Pope” is actually a nickname. Pope comes from the Latin Papa, meaning “father,” once given to all respected clergy members.”

If you really think about it, it remains a title given to all clergy above the rank of priest in the Latin rite, as well as to deacons and even lay monks in the Eastern rites. We call all those men “father” still…

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Ugochukwu Paul Nwaeze's avatar

Saint Andrew Wouters is a 16th Catholic saint because he was martyred for the faith. But before his martyrdom, he would have sex with women as he wished and drink till drunk... while being a Priest. But before he was martyred he said this; "Womanizer I was, heretic never".

Many of us fail to understand why Francis and his predecessors from 1960s have been seen as bad. We seem to think it's just by being sinful. We have had immoral Popes in the past, but heretic, never! It's not because of their many sins, but because of heresy. Catholics in the old days feared heresy more than any sin you can think of. It is a sin against the first commandment, and also a sin of ipso facto excommunication without declaration, and also it's a crime in a Christian nation as it's treason to the constitution of the state, therefore the person was usually killed or put in jail if found guilty of heresy. Many Saints would write at the beginning of their books, "I submit to whatever the Church teaches" out of fear that they may teach heresy.

Fast forward to the 1960s the faith has been dulled in the minds of Catholics that they weren't as afraid of heresy, much less in 2025. Therefore, a person today doesn't see anything wrong with Vatican II, Francis, John Paul II, Benedict etc. where they teach heresy and we just call them bad popes. A Pope can be a porn star and that doesn't necessarily discredit him as Pope, as sanctity is not a requirement for the Papacy (there are 5 if I remember correctly) but heresy is a very key aspect of being a Priest not to talk of a Pope.

I am not necessarily saying you should be a Sedevacantist as I am, I am only urging that you wake up your Catholic sense. A heretic isn't a Christian, that's why the Church has always taught that Protestants are damned since they are outside the Church and not Christian. The whole reason we answer the name Catholic, is because of heresy. Catholics of the early Church had to use a term that differentiate them from other heretics. Please my friend, heresy is the worst sin against God. Do not die in such a state.

If you can prove that John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I & II, Benedict XVI, Francis I aren't heretics, then please inform me so that I can join you in your bliss, but if you find them to be in heresy (Material or Formal), therefore, if you don't be a Sedevacantist, then at least you should doubt their papacy as a heretic isn't a Christian, therefore cannot be the Pope of Christianity.

This I do for love not for the case of argument. If you reject my admonition, then that's fine. As a friend, I thought to correct this.

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